485: Dr. Kanwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking

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Hey, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about an incredible story of overcoming most cancers and in addition about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and in addition turning into a magnificence queen. And the rationale that she really did that and the way she used that platform to indicate her scars and to indicate her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside along with her most cancers analysis and to deliver consciousness. She additionally talks rather a lot about some taboo matters. we speak about sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually shocking statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and in addition methods to assist enhance them. So, positively, a fact-packed episode, her story is admittedly unimaginable. And with out additional ado, let’s be a part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks like you will have each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which might be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to start out broad, I’ve learn that you’ve got a very, actually fascinating and superb story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a analysis of in some unspecified time in the future of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually lovely and empowering and superb. So can we begin by studying somewhat extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump after I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional danger elements, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be somewhat perplexed as a result of I believed it was in regards to the affected person, not the, you understand, the numbers. So it took numerous convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They acquired an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very improper. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was improper and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a special hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I would like ladies and even males to know that after they really feel that there’s one thing improper with them, that they need to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you understand you now. And nonetheless, you understand, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a alternative. I may let most cancers defeat me or I may make it about one thing larger than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to affix a magnificence pageant. Now chances are you’ll surprise why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be a part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully consider that when you suppose it’s going to defeat you, it completely will. You might be proper by some means.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to affix Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to dwell their greatest life regardless of most cancers. To point out them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less lovely, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It might have been straightforward to take action, but it surely was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t deliver myself to put on it as a result of I wished to talk my fact. And after I received Miss Florida, it was an enormous win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any form. So, in so some ways, you understand, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very completely satisfied as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s superb. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves on the subject of medical care. And I had an identical expertise in a a lot much less ominous analysis, however I, for years, knew one thing was improper and would go to docs and ask for assessments. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was advised, “Properly, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of these items are regular postpartum. Your ranges are tremendous.” They usually have been solely testing, in fact, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a analysis that then helped me recuperate. And also you hear about this rather a lot within the medical world. And sadly, it looks like it typically occurs extra to ladies than males actually because I feel many research are finished on males as a result of they’re simpler to review.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel the perfect outcomes, and also you may agree from a health care provider’s perspective, occur when you will have a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and in addition eager to work with a practitioner as a associate in enhancing their very own well being. And the opposite factor you stated that I feel is so essential on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept when you suppose one thing will defeat you, it’s going to. And likewise when you have a optimistic mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How essential do you suppose that mindset piece was for you and for different individuals in the identical scenario?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you stated as a result of so many docs will not be testing you absolutely, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so completely satisfied that you simply have been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was improper. And so far as mindset is anxious, mindset in my case was all the pieces. And this may increasingly appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some issues throughout my most cancers therapy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges have been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And one among my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we rotated. And after I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I stated to her, “It’s okay. It actually is. I will likely be tremendous. And never solely am I going to be tremendous, in only a few months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And he or she laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not value doing if it was not value doing absolutely and nicely. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to individuals normally about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I’d have made it so far as I did and had the end result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any melancholy on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you simply reframed that and didn’t conceal from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it may open a dialog about that. I feel typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence seems to be like and that strain to really feel excellent and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought-about, you understand, bodily excellent. And doubtless by doing that, you gave ladies freedom to be who they really are in so some ways, and to not have to keep up this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your motive for competing as nicely is that you simply have been capable of shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as nicely, proper? You used your platform to deliver numerous consciousness there as nicely.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I wished to boost consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers analysis, that there’s a lot stuff to sit up for. Now, occurring stage and the gown I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was a press release. I didn’t select a gown that coated my chest. I may have. There are various robes I may have worn which might be completely lovely that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast measurement. However I went on stage as is. I used to be utterly uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my alternative of gown. This was about, once more, one thing larger than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that have been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need individuals to suppose that most cancers is just not lovely. Most cancers is simply as lovely as the rest. And I feel that that was a vital message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how to start with overwhelming a most cancers analysis should really feel. And I hear from individuals, sadly, like I stated, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a analysis and, you understand, overwhelmed and surprise the place to even begin searching for assets. So I’m curious if there have been issues that have been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece whenever you have been going by way of that and/or that helped you understand issues to do to bodily help your self by way of that course of and to verify your physique was nourished and capable of recuperate?

Dr. Bawa: You understand, it’s fascinating how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical follow, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based follow. Once I began this, after I conceived this follow, I used to be not pondering of most cancers. I used to be not pondering of what a most cancers affected person wants for help but satirically, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t should go exterior to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I may do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you’ll be able to’t eat nicely, your dietary stage goes down at a degree whenever you want the next dietary stage to battle that illness, to battle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, primarily. You want it. I extremely advocate it. It saved my life, but it surely’s a poison. Let’s not neglect that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be capable of do hair restoration inside my follow as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many circumstances, it needs to be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that manner, even my very own associates stated I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They advised me I used to be being, you understand, very superficial. And I stated, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about combating it when you’ll be able to battle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my follow and I by no means went bald regardless of very sturdy chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mixture of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers remedies or has gone by way of most cancers remedies, they understand how sturdy that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you understand, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin remedies at my very own follow as a result of chemotherapy causes numerous pores and skin injury and hyperpigmentation. So irrespective of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had numerous pores and skin injury. So, numerous that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my follow in any manner. You requested how I acquired by way of it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a dwelling anyway. Now, how different individuals would get by way of it, I extremely advocate that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the assets close to them. Possibly there’s a follow like me close to them. Possibly there’s anyone who can assist them save their hair. Possibly there’s somebody who can assist them with wellness and IVs and, you understand, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin adjustments and issues like that. As a result of, you understand, it’s very miserable whenever you look within the mirror and also you don’t appear like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you nearly don’t acknowledge who you might be. And there’s one thing to be stated for making an attempt to keep up what you’ll be able to of your self by way of all of it.

I imply, there was a degree I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye coloration and do injury to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market may do injury. Folks don’t speak about it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it may well trigger some adjustments within the coloration of your eye, for example. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was optimistic in each manner for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my follow for that. So, a lot of that, you understand, I used to be so fortunate, however I do advocate that they attain out to social staff, they attain out to help teams, and in my case, to associates. My household doesn’t dwell right here. My household’s abroad. So my associates have been my tribe. They have been those who helped me by way of all of it. My good friend, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You understand, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s lovely. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs on the subject of most cancers therapy or any type of medical therapy. It looks like typically there’s a stress between the standard mannequin and the issues that you must do medically and the wellness aspect. And it looks like the perfect outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it’s not an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which might be supportive of your physique and in addition supportive of hopefully, the method of therapy and serving to your physique recuperate extra shortly. However that’s a very unimaginable story that hopefully provides hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical scenario. And also you talked about your follow, I’d like to delve into a few completely different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with individuals in quite a lot of other ways.

However one other space I hear rather a lot from ladies about proper now and I ponder if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks like there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in ladies. I don’t know if that is present or when you’ve possibly seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious when you’re comfy sharing, when you had any of these struggles whenever you went by way of your chemo journey, but in addition the ways in which you assist deal with that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very enthusiastic about. I do numerous intimate wellness for each women and men at my follow, and chemo and most cancers remedies, most cancers drugs, even after chemo could cause numerous adjustments in a lady’s hormonal stability. It threw me into menopause. So, you understand, there’s rather a lot that goes improper with most cancers and with getting old, normally. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that could be very ignored. Ladies take higher care of their vehicles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I stated about hair loss on the subject of most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as an alternative of therapy. So, I encourage ladies to come back get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to ladies world wide that they should deal with themselves sooner.

In the event you deal with the issue earlier, youthful, you will have higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age otherwise. It’s not simply your face that’s getting old, it’s your vagina as nicely. So I’m very large in my follow on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to deliver higher blood move into your vaginal space, normally, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic ground, all of it wants good blood move. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You understand, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels all over the place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood move. And that makes your pelvic ground stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and all the pieces else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re actually making an enormous stride in the direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to ladies of all ages. It additionally makes ladies extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a great plus level with it. So, we do O-Pictures at our follow, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the great, great results now we have with it. And there’s little doubt, and that’s the fantastic thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as nicely at my follow with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something destructive about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps ladies throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue making an attempt to even let you know as a lady it won’t work. And you understand what? Typically the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is completely different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or kind. In order that’s one thing that I’m very completely satisfied to be doing. And we are actually a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, normally, by serving to individuals this manner.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that getting old course of occurs there as nicely, particularly simply as part of regular getting old. And I do know ladies report extra pelvic ground points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of girls. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that manner. Are there different elements, like for example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are these items that you simply do in your workplace capable of assist type of deal with the, like, sexual satisfaction aspect of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do could be very complete. I really feel the completely different elements of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an example, I don’t simply do hormone alternative, I prefer to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of elements of our life as we age, as we battle completely different ailments. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, normally. So I prefer to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I’d optimize your hormones. I’d optimize your diet and your metabolic scenario with IV remedy. I’d do, you understand, GAINSWave when you’re a person, I do FemiWave when you’re a lady. These are issues that assist everybody. I can not think about providing you with a subset that it could not assist. In some form or kind, it’s going to assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does anyone want, you understand, for example, a vaginal laser? We will all the time do this. Do the boys want some type of remedy? We will do this. So I feel that this must be seen as a much bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks like the perfect outcomes in any realm occur whenever you deal with the physique as a complete and work and help its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you simply discovered useful personally or that you simply advocate to your sufferers that they will do at dwelling which might be supportive, whether or not or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks like sleep and hydration are throughout the board all the time good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 visitors on this podcast say sleep is just not essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there belongings you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the consequences of those remedies and in addition that have been useful to you whenever you have been going by way of your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I may do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t suppose that it’s important to sit for an hour and, you understand, stare on the area to meditate. I feel meditation may be various things to completely different individuals. The thought is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel that you must calm your thoughts and discover stability inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is an excellent factor. As you talked about, hydration is a primary factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works nicely. Your pores and skin, your well being, normally, nothing works nicely with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you it’s important to eat natural, it’s not all the time possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do advocate making an attempt your greatest to have a extra inclusive weight loss program, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your weight loss program.

As an example, chemo can result in numerous weight achieve. It’s a fallacy when individuals suppose that each one most cancers sufferers shed weight. Some achieve. I did. So I feel the thought is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll shed weight,” or let me do that or that, I’ll shed weight. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with wise parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Stability is essential in each side. After which, in fact, I feel when yow will discover a health care provider close to you who can assist you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you understand, all of this was out there to me, however hunt down practitioners who consider in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their follow one thing that may assist you. Now, sexually, for example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we also have a gadget. In the event that they contact us, we are able to all the time ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness gadget that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave know-how and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and produce good blood move into the vaginal space. It’s not as sturdy as what we do within the workplace, but it surely’s a beautiful adjunct for another therapy or the rest you’re doing in your life. In the event you can’t get to us personally, a minimum of use this at dwelling. It is vitally useful.

Katie: And I’m curious when you can communicate to possibly in simply generalities or possibly particular circumstances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes individuals typically want these sorts of remedies? Like, I feel most individuals possibly don’t notice that you simply see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like individuals perceive in that stage. However it could appear to be rising blood move could be a reasonably dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do individuals sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly per week in the past is a few gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him they usually’re having the perfect intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had remedies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you understand, they’re having intercourse a minimum of as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention anyone who’s nearly 70 years previous. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my follow, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you might be. If in case you have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and dwell your greatest life. Have you learnt that 20% of males of their 20s undergo from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s may deliver dysfunction, but it surely’s completely true. It’s a recognized reality throughout the scientific group that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you stated, we don’t all the time have these research in ladies. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re known as histrionic, hysterical, you understand, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you understand, whenever you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to ladies. So I’m not right here to say that…you understand, I’m not right here for a ladies’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that girls, we don’t all the time have the research for us, we don’t all the time have the statistics for us, however now now we have choices and we should always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically could have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the identical age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had large environmental adjustments which might be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When now we have extra destructive inputs that now we have to take care of, now we have to grow to be extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you stated too about weight loss program as nicely, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts ladies extra as nicely due to weight loss program tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks like many ladies wrestle with the mindset of with the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and with the ability to eat sufficient diverse meals to actually really help our physique. So I really like that you simply introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve stated on right here earlier than is now we have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is dangerous. There’s guilt hooked up to meals. I must weight loss program and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to one of the best ways potential? How do I help it? How do I help its pure processes of detoxing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unimaginable in what they will do, they only want somewhat bit extra help in at present’s world as a result of they’re going through greater than they’ve previously.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you stated so many great issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we file this and really speak about this by myself social media platforms as a result of what you stated is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Have you learnt that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing individuals don’t speak about. It’s not a horny matter, but it surely’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you stated earlier about…you stated one thing easy, you stated, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. In the event you don’t get sufficient sleep, you will have decrease fertility. So when you will have decrease fertility, that impacts so many various elements of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So you then talked about, you understand, different adjustments which might be occurring, different issues which might be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a measurement 0-2 after I was identified with most cancers, I’m most likely a measurement 6 proper now. And I’m not being onerous on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me improper, I’m not consuming all the bread basket. But when I need a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not ingesting a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine sometimes. I feel we must be kinder to ourselves as ladies and as males. I feel society could be very robust on us. I feel there’s this entire idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be combating that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went after I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you understand, coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you are feeling lovely, that feeling wants to come back from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to individuals going by way of struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that energy wants to come back from inside us. While you look in that mirror, that you must see somebody lovely, somebody sturdy, somebody who has persevered. Now we have all gone by way of struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal manner. I’ll have gone to medical college. I’ll put on an extended white coat. My successes are completely different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage individuals to feeling and being their greatest. It wants to come back from inside actually.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily adjustments of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was rather a lot for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this somewhat bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And after I may have a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it turned a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as an alternative of combating it and loving it as an alternative of depriving it. And that made all the distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to come back and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to come back from inside. And as ladies, that additionally provides us the flexibility to be that for different individuals as nicely. However it may well’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be sure we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about ladies affected by one thing known as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as nicely. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you suppose it may be on the rise proper now, after which how ladies can deal with that?

Dr. Bawa: There are various explanation why ladies are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people notice that solely 18% of girls can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, normally. Like I stated, we have to deliver higher blood move into the realm to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two completely different points. Some individuals are having painful intercourse. Some individuals are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are various parts to this. So I feel wellness as a complete is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to discuss that downside. While you deal with it along with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are a couple of essential parts to this.

It’s good to communicate to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, they usually can assist you with this. In relation to the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will assist you with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are completely different instruments that that you must assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a number of issues you are able to do to assist your self. They usually all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any one among them by themselves. So I feel there’s rather a lot on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like every sexual well being matter is somewhat bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I speak about it on right here, however I feel the dialog can be crucial as a result of we all know that that’s tied into general well being. And to your level, I feel this can be a matter that isn’t talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We actually see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks like when males have a wrestle with that, it turns into a vital, imminent factor to repair. However ladies, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s improper with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t notice it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of ladies, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel dangerous speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them notice that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this out there and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in hassle typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not displaying something that’s express. I imply, my posts will not be pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me let you know one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my youngsters on a trip and shut the workplace for per week and my assistant went on a trip along with her household. We consider in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we acquired an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers may a minimum of make and alter appointments whereas we have been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Have you learnt that I acquired a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service they usually stated to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this entire account up, however we can not reply your calls as a result of some individuals name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate matter.” I stated, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you understand, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you understand, individuals calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? They usually stated, “Properly, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I stated, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these have been ladies telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in at present’s day and age, within the yr 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I provide vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a few medical downside…like, to me that might be the identical as like much like a pregnant girl making an attempt to name her OB and being advised, “Oh, I’m sorry, we are able to’t speak about that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you understand, my head was spinning. I nonetheless bear in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I stated, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is dangerous? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the woman, I stated, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you will have a vagina? Do you ever discover that you simply need assistance from a health care provider in your vagina? I don’t anticipate you to reply that query,” I stated to her, “however how will you deny ladies the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I’ll offer you a small instance of the answering service, but it surely signifies a much bigger concern. It’s not okay to speak about it usually. Why? We’re all men and women, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a scenario the place now we have the suitable to have good, intimate wellness and to not be advised that it’s dangerous or soiled or upsetting to the common one who’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to individuals? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a grimy phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I’d not be alive at present. It’s not essentially a nasty factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. In the event you don’t dribble urine whenever you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s a much bigger concern than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we remodel lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo matter, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts after I speak about it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you understand, little emails warning me in regards to the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being known as an issue baby as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all going through? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so completely satisfied you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Properly, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are frequent, it doesn’t imply they should be regular, or actually that they should expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine after I train or bounce on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t should be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you will have children, but it surely doesn’t should be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And likewise a theme from this entire interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly ladies on the subject of these matters actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a notice in my present notes that when you have been going to provide a TED Discuss, it could be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is crucial to you. So I’d love to listen to somewhat bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by way of all the pieces and is so, so essential. So, I’d simply love to listen to somewhat little bit of your perspective on that, having been by way of adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You understand, all the pieces about who I’m at present has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t speak about this often, and I’m going to strive to not choke up about it as I speak about it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I am going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s an enormous deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all instructional, monetary boundaries. I used to be a sufferer of numerous emotional, home abuse and ultimately bodily abuse as nicely. And also you wouldn’t suppose that a health care provider in my scenario would take care of that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m not in that scenario anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a few mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about shedding hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me grow to be a much bigger individual, a greater individual. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something destructive that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or kind that may be, to indicate my sons, who’re my world, that life is just not in regards to the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to remodel it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Discuss, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it could be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a few pageant. It was a a lot larger factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the thought of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers is just not imagined to be lovely, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you achieve weight, you shed weight, however both manner, you’re not at your greatest. So we assume that which means we’re not lovely. No, you might be simply as lovely if no more so as a result of now you will have overcome yet one more factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me dwell a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s nearly oxymoronic when you consider adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional progress.

Katie: I absolutely agree having been by way of trauma in my previous as nicely, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different individuals by way of that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a motive. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we actually all the time have that alternative as nicely. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was known as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a guide or quite a lot of books which have had a profound affect in your life or your journey, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a guide that all the time comes up in my thoughts after I’m requested a query about books or a guide that has modified me is a guide known as “Outliers.” Outlier is a guide written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are often outliers on the tip of that spectrum a method or one other, and what number of occasions it’s important to do one thing to succeed, to grow to be good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the common, above the norm that I feel is a guide that basically helps me proceed my journey in the direction of self-improvement, in the direction of attaining excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as stated to me, after I was about 5 years previous, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your identify. If you wish to be a health care provider, be the easiest you may be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You understand, if you wish to be anyone who does muffins for a dwelling, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in all the pieces. In order that’s, you understand, one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s lovely. I really like that. And I’ll, in fact, put hyperlinks to your follow and to some publish regarding among the matters we’ve talked about at present for any of you guys listening, particularly if you’re within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and study. These hyperlinks will likely be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners at present, whether or not or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the matters we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I may really give two items of recommendation when you’ll let me, I feel I’d prefer to say two issues. Firstly, ladies, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing improper, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will take heed to you. Secondly, I’d say, I consider in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see whenever you look within the mirror. In the event you’re not completely satisfied along with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There’s assist on the market. In the event you’re not having the perfect intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the perfect intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you understand, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you simply’re not proud of, don’t be complacent. So a lot of my sufferers say, “Properly, I’m not that dangerous but.” That idea is unnecessary to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is an entire catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, for example, the place it’s acquired no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. In the event you’re having points along with your hormones and also you’re having scorching flashes, communicate to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Do this. So, I feel, dwell your greatest life, no matter which means to you. In no matter form or kind you’ll be able to elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I feel that sums up numerous what we talked about at present and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful in your time at present. I’m very grateful that you’ve got recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you simply’re serving to many different individuals do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was great.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most precious property, your time and power, and a focus with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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